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Insurance Check
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:27 pm
by jordan2k510
Recently our church van caught on fire. Total loss. Insurance sent a check. This van was purchased long before Powerchurch was used and had never been entered as an asset. What is the other side of the entry for the check? Db checking and CR ???
Re: Insurance Check
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:53 pm
by Matt
In this situation I would recommend that you set up a income account called "Van Insurance Settlement" and post the credit there.
Re: Insurance Check
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:07 pm
by jordan2k510
Thanks.
Should it close to a specific van equity account or just unrestricted equity?
Re: Insurance Check
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:51 pm
by JohnDMeyers
Probably unrestricted.
There clearly is no "donor restriction" placed on the insurance check. However, the church may want to restrict its use, and one way to track it is by using the restriction mechanism in PowerChurch.
An easier way, and what I would do, is to create a subaccount under checking.

Re: Insurance Check
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:15 pm
by jordan2k510
John,
What would the entire JE look like?
Re: Insurance Check
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:31 pm
by JohnDMeyers
If your normal checking is 01-1110-000, create 01-1110-110 Van insurance settlement
The JE would be:
CR 01-1110-000 checking $1,000
DB 01-1110-110 Van insurance settlement $1,000
Re: Insurance Check
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:35 pm
by JohnDMeyers
For more clarity on your reports:
CREATE 01-1109-000 GROUP Asset, Level 4, GROUP, GENERAL CHECKING
Make 01-1110-000 checking a Level 5, detail, account
Make 01-1110-110 Van insurance settlement a Level 5, detail, account
Now your reports will look like this:
GENERAL CHECKING
..checking $4,301.00
..Van insurance settlement $1,000
Subtotal General Checking $5,301.00
Re: Insurance Check
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:24 pm
by jordan2k510
Thanks. Simple enough. However as I enter it from the check, deposit it into the checking account. Would I first need to debit it to 1110-001 the checking account or does the sub account debit handle this?
Re: Insurance Check
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:56 pm
by JohnDMeyers
I think I answered incorrectly before.
I was thinking that you were asking how to move money that was already entered as income into a special account for tracking purposes.
If the question were asked, "how do I report the money that has not yet been recorded?"
My answer would be:
DB 01-1110-110 Van Settlement checking
CR 01-4130-000 Van Insurance Income
Re: Insurance Check
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:04 am
by jordan2k510
I set it up per your recommendation. However now I cannot Reconcile Bank Account as it does not show up as being deposited (which it was when received from the insurance company.) Please advise.
Re: Insurance Check
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:09 pm
by JohnDMeyers
If you mean PowerChurch doesn't show it, you first have to make the journal entry and post it.
If you mean the bank doesn't show it, then you will need to follow up with them.
Re: Insurance Check
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:25 pm
by jordan2k510
PC doesn't show it in the reconcile bank accounts report. It does show on the bank statement as I have deposited the check.
I have already posted :
CR 01-1110-000 checking $5334
DB 01-1110-110 Van insurance settlement $5334
Should I change it to :
CR 01-1110-110 Van Insurance Settlement
DB 01-4130-000 Van Ins Settlement Income
Or add this entry?
Re: Insurance Check
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:08 pm
by JohnDMeyers
Either way, as long as the four-digit number is 1110, it will show up in the reconciliation window.
If it does not, it could be that the date on it is past the date that you entered for the bank statement. Uncheck the box at the top of the window that says, "Only show items posted before statement date".
If that is not the reason, maybe you haven't posted that transaction, yet.
Re: Insurance Check
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:39 pm
by jordan2k510
Thanks. It now shows up in the reconsiliation by adding
CR 01-1110-110 Van Insurance Settlement
DB 01-4130-000 Van Ins Settlement Income
I still have this entry
CR 01-1110-000 checking $5334
DB 01-1110-110 Van insurance settlement $5334
Should I reverse it? Do I need it?
Re: Insurance Check
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:38 pm
by JohnDMeyers
No, you don't need it. If you already did it, you should reverse it.