I had to change the name of our church with the 'electric company. Since it was because we are a new church from the merger of two churches, we have to pay a deposit., I combined an electric bill (450.00) with a security deposit payment (165.00) to write one check. I'm going by memory so I don't have all the info but my entry in manual checks looked like this.
01-1110 checking cr 565.00
expense electricity db 450.00
equity security db 165.00
equity unrestricted net assets cr 165.00
It is not in balance. I can't figure out what I am missing. I should say I know it is off 165.00 in the db column but I an not sure where to account for it. If I did it all wrong let me know. We will have to make 2 more 165.00 security deposit payments.Would it be better to make them separate from the electric bill?
I used this thread to help me thus far. viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7354
Thanks
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JohnDMeyers
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Re: utility security deposit
The link you referenced had a note that I included about only directly manipulating the equity account when you are setting up beginning balances. There are some other rare reasons, but not as a matter of course.
I understand that you are trying to deal with security deposit differently than an expense. You are correct.
There are two options that I can think of. You could make it an asset, or you could make it a negative liability (meaning that someone owes the church money). Since most people (including me) don't like to incur negative numbers on our financial statements, I would make it a current asset, with the interpretation that it is an asset of the church, being held by others:
ASSETS
..CURRENT ASSETS
....OTHER CURRENT ASSETS
......Electric security deposit
01-1110 checking cr 565.00
expense electricity db 450.00
(asset) Electric security deposit db 165.00
I understand that you are trying to deal with security deposit differently than an expense. You are correct.
There are two options that I can think of. You could make it an asset, or you could make it a negative liability (meaning that someone owes the church money). Since most people (including me) don't like to incur negative numbers on our financial statements, I would make it a current asset, with the interpretation that it is an asset of the church, being held by others:
ASSETS
..CURRENT ASSETS
....OTHER CURRENT ASSETS
......Electric security deposit
01-1110 checking cr 565.00
expense electricity db 450.00
(asset) Electric security deposit db 165.00
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Re: utility security deposit
That transaction will still be out of balance since the Electric bill of $450 plus the deposit of $165 adds up to $615 not $565.
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Tom: Don't tell anyone, but I used to teach high school algebra. 
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Re: utility security deposit
LOL ... however, I think the original poster got the idea 
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Re: utility security deposit
Ummm yeah sure I can add 2+3=4That transaction will still be out of balance since the Electric bill of $450 plus the deposit of $165 adds up to $615 not $565.
I did a backup and did as JohnDMeyers suggested but missed one thing. Balanced checkbook and did a balance sheet. Hmmm no security deposit. Looked at the transaction again and saw Urestricten net asset. Aww crap. (can I say that here?)
Thanks for your help folks.
Eugene