I have made a mistake in posting in prior years and $40 hanging out in my 02-4800-000 and I need help correcting this off-age. All donor restrictions for this particular restricted use money have been met.
This is what I see on a multi-year (02) BUILDING FUND Income/Expense Summary report:
TEMP RESTRICTED RELEASE 02-4801-000
Kitchen Renovation Rel 02-4821-101 (3,315.90)
RELEASED FROM RESTRICTION 02-4998-000
Released from Restriction 02-4999-000 3,355.90
Subtotal Release From Restrictions 02-4800-000 40.00
How can I clear this $40.00 amount?
Excess Amount in Release from Restriction Account
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Re: Excess Amount in Release from Restriction Account
You'll probably have to do an Out of Balance (OOB) transaction. All you need is to enter OOB in the reference and the system will recognize it as a since account transaction. All you need to do is enter the debit or credit you need against the 02-4800 account to clear up that error.RLM wrote:I have made a mistake in posting in prior years and $40 hanging out in my 02-4800-000 and I need help correcting this off-age. All donor restrictions for this particular restricted use money have been met.
This is what I see on a multi-year (02) BUILDING FUND Income/Expense Summary report:
TEMP RESTRICTED RELEASE 02-4801-000
Kitchen Renovation Rel 02-4821-101 (3,315.90)
RELEASED FROM RESTRICTION 02-4998-000
Released from Restriction 02-4999-000 3,355.90
Subtotal Release From Restrictions 02-4800-000 40.00
How can I clear this $40.00 amount?
I would definitely enter as much info in the note area of the transaction entry screen to so that any auditor would understand what you did.
Neil Zampella
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Re: Excess Amount in Release from Restriction Account
Thank you Neil! I didn't realize that was an option. Obviosly one I should use with discretion.
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Re: Excess Amount in Release from Restriction Account
Some other ideas:
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Check you Balance Sheets on all of your Funds one-by-one. Make sure each one has "Assets" equal to "Liabilities plus Equity".
If you did this:
DB 01-4821-101
CR 02-4999-000
The balance sheet will show it.
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Run a trial balance for the multi-year period of your restriction. The bottom line should show if an OOB was done. Run a Journal Report over the same period. This also has a bottom line that needs to be in balance.
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Check other income accounts to see if you interchanged the digits or something.
DB 02-4128-000 unrestricted income
CR 02-4999-000 general release
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Check you Balance Sheets on all of your Funds one-by-one. Make sure each one has "Assets" equal to "Liabilities plus Equity".
If you did this:
DB 01-4821-101
CR 02-4999-000
The balance sheet will show it.
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Run a trial balance for the multi-year period of your restriction. The bottom line should show if an OOB was done. Run a Journal Report over the same period. This also has a bottom line that needs to be in balance.
----------
Check other income accounts to see if you interchanged the digits or something.
DB 02-4128-000 unrestricted income
CR 02-4999-000 general release
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If I think of others, I will let you know.
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Re: Excess Amount in Release from Restriction Account
I ran balance sheets for all four years (2008-2011) for all funds, they all balanced.
I ran journal entries for all four years for all funds, they all balanced.
When I added the OOB transaction for 31-Dec-2011 my trial balance is off $40 as well as my balance sheet. Is that expected or did I do something incorrectly?
OOB - one line transaction?
I ran journal entries for all four years for all funds, they all balanced.
When I added the OOB transaction for 31-Dec-2011 my trial balance is off $40 as well as my balance sheet. Is that expected or did I do something incorrectly?
OOB - one line transaction?
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Re: Excess Amount in Release from Restriction Account
The OOB is a one line transaction that will allow you to zero out the account, without changing any other account.RLM wrote:I ran balance sheets for all four years (2008-2011) for all funds, they all balanced.
I ran journal entries for all four years for all funds, they all balanced.
When I added the OOB transaction for 31-Dec-2011 my trial balance is off $40 as well as my balance sheet. Is that expected or did I do something incorrectly?
OOB - one line transaction?
You did take a backup prior to posting that, right ?
Neil Zampella
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Re: Excess Amount in Release from Restriction Account
I am working in a test instance..... backups have been made prior.
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Re: Excess Amount in Release from Restriction Account
This is a transaction that appears to correct my error in 2010 with the 02-4222-101 account.
02-4822-101 DB Wall Hangings Rel $40.00
02-4222-101 CR Wall Hangings Inc $40.00
I noticed that when the transaction was made in 2010 this what it looked like:
02-1120-000 CHECKING CR $78.78
02-4222-101 Wall Hangings Inc DB $40.00 (should have been 02-4822-101 Wall Hangings Rel)
02-4999-000 Released from restriction CR $40.00
02-8510-000 Misc Expense DB $13.06
02-8512-000 Wall Hangings Exp DB $65.67
Will the above transaction in 2011 work?
02-4822-101 DB Wall Hangings Rel $40.00
02-4222-101 CR Wall Hangings Inc $40.00
I noticed that when the transaction was made in 2010 this what it looked like:
02-1120-000 CHECKING CR $78.78
02-4222-101 Wall Hangings Inc DB $40.00 (should have been 02-4822-101 Wall Hangings Rel)
02-4999-000 Released from restriction CR $40.00
02-8510-000 Misc Expense DB $13.06
02-8512-000 Wall Hangings Exp DB $65.67
Will the above transaction in 2011 work?
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Re: Excess Amount in Release from Restriction Account
I can't wrap my head around this to know if it will work, or if you need to directly alter the equity account.
Make a backup and try your transaction. That would be the easiest way to tell. If things come out right, you're done.
Otherwise, restore the backup and try this:
DB 02-3110-000 $40
CR 02-3821-101 $40 (or whatever your restricted equity account is)
Make a backup and try your transaction. That would be the easiest way to tell. If things come out right, you're done.
Otherwise, restore the backup and try this:
DB 02-3110-000 $40
CR 02-3821-101 $40 (or whatever your restricted equity account is)
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