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When entering contributions in February the check number can't be entered and the dollar amount
can't be entered. When trying to enter check number it just goes back to envelope number.

mocat wrote:When entering contributions in February the check number can't be entered and the dollar amount
can't be entered. When trying to enter check number it just goes back to envelope number.

What version are you using ?? Has this worked previously ??

Has anything changed as far as preferences, new computer, etc ??

Check the numlock key on your number pad. When not on, those keys become navigation keys that will move you from field to field.

Jeff wrote:Check the numlock key on your number pad. When not on, those keys become navigation keys that will move you from field to field.

Ack ... too true !!

When member submit a evelope with a dollar amount on it from purchasing items for the church how would you post it so that they will get credit for it at the end of the year.

kdbabie wrote:When member submit a evelope with a dollar amount on it from purchasing items for the church how would you post it so that they will get credit for it at the end of the year.

FWIW ... the IRS says that someone cannot claim a deduction on their taxes if they get something in return. That is, if they paid $10 for an item, such as a book which costs $10, they cannot get credit a taxable deduction. If the book costs $8, and they paid $10, with $2 going to the church, they can only get a deduction for the $2, and that's how I would enter it in the Contributions module as a contribution of $2.

A friendly hint, since this is actually a new topic, it would have been a better idea to start a new topic for this, rather than have it get buried under an older topic.

If a member buy item for church and don't want to be paid back for items, but would rather have me enter it in as a contribution so that they can get credit for it how would I enter it so that they can get the dollar value for it and not make my monthly donation be more than bank deposits.

kdbabie wrote:If a member buy item for church and don't want to be paid back for items, but would rather have me enter it in as a contribution so that they can get credit for it how would I enter it so that they can get the dollar value for it and not make my monthly donation be more than bank deposits.

You can create a special "donation fund" that does not have links to any accounts in Funds Accounting, and just enter those donations on a separate day from normal collections. Then you just post that entry to Contributions only, and it will only appear in Contributions, and will not cause a deposit transaction in FA.

That said, we found it much easier to just issue a thank you letter on Church stationary, listing the donation and the amount it cost, and send it to the contributor.

That said, I seem to remember that there are new restrictions on such donations, so I would definitely check with a local tax advisor on any new procedures that may be needed.

kdbabie wrote:If a member buy item for church and don't want to be paid back for items, but would rather have me enter it in as a contribution so that they can get credit for it how would I enter it so that they can get the dollar value for it and not make my monthly donation be more than bank deposits.

The way it is done at the church where I work is this:

The individual gives the bookkeeper a receipt showing the amount that was spent on the item(s) he purchased for the church.

The bookkeeper writes a check to the individual for that amount and debits the expense account for the item.

The individual either endorses the check back to the church or writes his own check for the same amount and puts the check in the contribution plate. The check is recorded as a general fund contribution from the individual and is deposited with the rest of the offerings.

Hope this helps.

Eden

Eden, I hate to say this, but that sounds like money laundering

NeilZ wrote:Eden, I hate to say this, but that sounds like money laundering

Neil,
I hope you're kidding!?!

This isn't something I devised on my own. I'm quite certain I came across it on a thread in this forum... somewhere... sometime. I'm going to do a search now and see if I can find it again!

But, please, tell me you're just kidding....

Eden

Ah-ha! Found it! In the article: "Tales From Tech 2 - Issue: 7.1 / ...More information on Non-cash Contributions" ( http://www.powerchurch.com/support/tech ... ssue_id=10 ) --

The major issue here is the legality of the church trying to interpret the value of something when there is any degree of uncertainty. Now, when someone buys a can of paint and gives that to the church, it's not that difficult to assign a value. The price is current and printed plainly on the receipt! As I said before, I'm not a lawyer and I certainly don't work for the IRS, but I don't feel that the IRS will come after you for giving someone credit for a $9.49 can of paint. But, to be safe, some churches will write the contributor a reimbursement check for the amount of the receipt and then the contributor simply signs the check and gives it back to the church. Like I said, if you're concerned, discuss these issues with a lawyer, an accountant or someone that works for the IRS. (Or, if you don't have an IRS agent in the closet, you can go online to http://www.irs.gov/ and then scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on "Forms & Pubs." From there, click on "Publications and Notices" and then on the page that comes up, just follow the instructions to retrieve Publications 526 and 561. You can print those out and then read all about the rules and regulations straight from the horse's mouth.)

Eden Whitehead wrote:

NeilZ wrote:Eden, I hate to say this, but that sounds like money laundering

Neil,
I hope you're kidding!?!

But, please, tell me you're just kidding....

Eden

I was

Neil,

Whew! Now I can start breathing again and maybe my heart rate will go back to normal! Now I can

Eden

(P.S. A little background on my alarm - I come from a part of the country where money-laundering is one of the major industries, and I surely did not want to have the church whose trust I have earned to fall into something nefarious because of my ignorance or ineptitude!)